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E230: When your customers complain + sell without selling (Q&A)

January 16, 2024


How does your organization approach and manage product failures when they occur?


There are times when your service fails, and customers are unhappy.


You might even start to lose faith in what you are selling.


In this episode I discuss how to overcome that, mentally, as a salesperson.


The second topic for this episode is around selling without “selling”.


It’s helping people buy versus PUSHING them with your sales pitch.




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  • Show Transcript

    Jason: A lot of times salespeople get excited. They don't want to point out the negatives. They are not confident in maybe themselves or their sales process. They're worried about pointing out those things that somebody else might view as a trade off. When in fact, what you want to do as a salesperson is make sure it's a good fit.


    Point out the positives, but then also bring to light any trade offs or anything that the customer might experience that could be negative, but they understand it's part of the process. Welcome to the sales experience podcast, the show for salespeople and sales leaders, where we help you create the ideal sales experience to generate raving fan customers.


    Grab your notepad and get ready for actionable steps. You can use to change sales from a dirty word to an active service for your prospects. Now for your host, Jason Cotter.


    I am so glad that you're here. I'm so glad that you're taking the time to hopefully up a level your sales career or your sales team by listening to podcasts like this. Hopefully you've subscribed. If not, make sure to subscribe. And if you like this, leave a rating and a review. And in this episode, I am going to address some.

    Sales related questions to try to help everybody in sales, do more, be more and sell more with their career and achieve their goals. Now let's go ahead and jump into this episode. Hey, what's going on in today's topic. I want to answer a question from Wendy bat, and this is regarding the authentic persuasion Q and a sessions that I've been doing.


    So what Wendy sent me was. A challenge would be continuing to believe in your product when it fails. There's actually a second question, but let's address this one first. So what do you do when your product fails? So when customers are buying it, when you sell it to somebody and it doesn't live up to what happened or what the expectation was set, what should have happened?


    This could be a couple of different reasons and so it's important to understand which is the case. Is it that what you sold isn't a good product or service and such that like it needs to be tweaked, it needs to be changed, it needs to be improved, or it shouldn't exist? And if that's the case and it's not going to improve, My suggestion would be to move on and go sell something else that you can believe in and stand by and trust that it's going to happen and work like it's supposed to or provide the value to the customer like you're telling them that it will.


    So that would be the first thing. The other part is that sometimes what happens is sales people get excited and they sell something to somebody. Move a prospect forward into being a customer when it's not a good fit or they over exaggerate or they only focus on the positives without pointing out any of the downsides or negatives.


    And I have this debate with people all the time, especially founders who think they've created something that solves all the world's. Problems and is perfect in every single way. Like a parent who thinks their child is the perfect child and can do no wrong with every product or service for the positives that it has, there's always a negative or some kind of trade off or some kind of consequence, right?


    So let's say a car, it might be great at this, but it's not great at that, right? Could be comfortable and safe for the family, but it might not be fast, right? It might be fast, but it might not be comfortable for more than two people or for driving long. There's so many things that a product could have as their positive and their negative or what somebody might perceive as a negative trade off for that item.


    It's just the case, right? Like they say, good, fast, or cheap, two out of the three, but never all three. Even if you're buying paper towels, you can't have amazing paper towels that are also cheap and effective. It usually doesn't work that way. So there's some kind of trade off. And a lot of times salespeople get excited.


    They don't want to point out the negatives. They're not confident in maybe themselves or their sales process. They're worried about pointing out those things that somebody else might view as a trade off. When in fact, what you want to do as a salesperson is make sure it's a good fit, point out the positives, but then also bring to light any trade offs or anything that the customer might experience that could be negative or they might not like, but they understand it's part of the process.


    And so it's key to do that because if you don't do that, What happens is somebody becomes a customer and then they get upset because the expectation was set that this is a purple unicorn that will solve all of their problems. That's the perfect fit and does everything that needs to be done with no downsides.


    It's the wonder drug and then life doesn't work that way. There's always something. There's always some kind of trade off with everything. And so it's important as a salesperson to always point that out because what I see. As salespeople sometimes thinking that their product or service doesn't work or that it failed or that it's not effective, a lot of times is the expectation being set up front that's not possible when the customer becomes a customer and starts using that product or service.


    So that's the first, if it's obviously failing, if it's not a good fit, then either hopefully the company will fix it or you can go sell something else. And then also always make sure you're setting the right expectation, not the positive. Not the great expectation, but the real expectation of the positives and the potential negatives of your product or service.


    So that's the first answer to the first question. Second question that Wendy sent to me was competing against low cost providers when the majority of customers have been facing budget cuts. Obviously right now we're dealing with this global pandemic. We're dealing with economic crisis. Everyday reports are coming out about different countries in different areas going into a recession officially and what's been happening the last few months.


    And so here's the thing is when you're competing against low cost providers, you're never going to win because it's going to be a race to the bottom. If you're selling something of value that actually will help your prospects in some way, help them gain or achieve a goal or help them avoid pain or loss.


    If you're helping them in some way, it should not be about the lowest cost option, but the best fit and the best value. Now, Obviously, if people are facing budget cuts or financial challenges, you want to be respectful of that and you want to make sure it's still a good fit, but you've got to be careful not to give away the farm and cut prices or cut anything like that because what you're doing again, racing to the bottom and you're giving up the price, which is going to undercut the value.


    If you have something that's valuable. People will find a way to pay for it. They'll find a way in their budget to do it.


    Jason: And it's really going to come down to you and your ability to persuade them for the value of what you're selling relative to their needs and their wants and helping them understand that cheaper is not always better.


    At some level you get what you pay for, and that's what you want to make. Sure that your prospects understand and you also have to be fully okay with the fact that you're not gonna win them all you're not gonna get every single deal if people are sensitive on price, because even if you make the sale today, they're gonna think about it and linger and doubt and have buyers remorse that they overpaid that they shouldn't have done it.


    And then that's going to be a tough client to maintain or a customer who may want to return whatever it is that you sold them. So hopefully that helps. Wendy, thanks for this. And if you have a question or anything you want to submit to me, you can do it through LinkedIn. You can also go to jasoncutter.com. And use any of the buttons on there to get in touch with me, set up a free sales power call, as well as find other resources, anything that I can do to help you with your sales career. Hey, it's Jason here. We'll be right back to the podcast. But first, are you ready to change the way you view your selling role and become a sales professional?


    Do you have a team that is hungry for new ways to improve and grow? If so, I have various coaching and consulting programs available that might be great tools to help you achieve your goals. To learn more about the ways we can work together and to book your free sales power call, go to jasoncutter.com.


    Now let's get back to the episode. Today's topic comes from Catherine Adruja and what she asked was, how do you come off as if you aren't selling to them? And then she put golden ticket. So how does it feel like you're not selling to them and they want to buy? And maybe I don't know exactly what she meant by the golden tick part, but I take that to mean like they have found the golden ticket, they want it more than you're having to sell and persuade and twist arms and convince the key is that I have found is that the more you can do the initial parts of the process.


    Which some people would call discovery. I also would call it rapport and empathy, asking questions and building that trust. The more you can take that consultative approach where your number one goal is to build some kind of relationship with them relative to what you're selling and how much is necessary and applicable in that conversation.


    And then also being able to know at the deepest level they will share and that you can. Pull from them through your questions, why they need your product or service. That is the key. Why do they need what you're offering, what you're selling, and why for their reasons, is it important for them? The more you can do that, the less it will feel like selling.


    And the more it will feel like consulting and then persuading them to understand that what you have to offer, if it's a good fit is what they're looking for. That is the solution. Again, they have problem X, you have solution X. This should be a no brainer. They should want it. The key is though, is you've got to make sure they know why they want or need it.


    And you've got to understand that you're always in a battle against your prospects, part of their brain, trying to keep them safe in their comfort zone, seeing change as the enemy and something that could cause harm and or death. That's literally what that part of their brain is saying, what all of our parts of our brain are saying when it comes to change.


    Some people tolerate it more, some people tolerate it a lot less. And so your prospect is coming up against that in their mind, and your goal is to make them feel safe that what you have to offer will get them to where they want to be. When that happens, then it's them asking you to buy. If you're having to ask them if they want to buy.


    Or you're having to trick them or use a lot of slick closing lines in order to trap them in that corner. Then that means you have a battle now and in the future in retaining that customer versus getting the buy. When I hear golden ticket I think of Willy Wonka and the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.


    And what was that? Nobody had to convince anybody in that movie or in those books that they wanted the golden ticket, that they wanted a chance to get into the chocolate factory. Everyone wanted it because they wanted it for their reasons. And they went nuts. That's the key. So you want to make sure your prospects understand for their reasons why they want it.


    If you are in a sales role, it's your job as a professional to help. Guide them there and uncover that unpack it and then present it to them such that it's a no brainer from their side that they want to buy from you and then they will be happy. Then they will become a raving fan. They may even send you lots of referrals because they bought for their reasons, not your reasons.


    So hopefully that helps. Thank you again, Catherine, for the question, the submission. If you have a question, anything you want to submit to me, send it via LinkedIn. You can also go to Jason cutter. com where you can find lots of other resources. You can book a free sales power call with me, get on the phone.


    We can talk about sales and there's lots of different ways I might be able to help you achieve greater success in your sales career. That's it for today. I'll see you tomorrow.



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By Jason Cutter February 13, 2025
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The Danger of Doing Too Much as a Sales Leader Alright – so maybe they don’t need to go 90. In true servant leadership mode, you would go way more than 10% of the way to your team. But you have to be careful, as a sales leader. The inclination might be to do it all for them. To help them close their sales. To make excuses for them to your leadership as to why they aren’t closing more sales. Especially considering the very high likelihood that you are a sales manager because you were a great salesperson in the role that you are now managing. And there is a slight chance that you are a player-coach…so you are leading and selling. This can make it really tough not to want to run out on the field to win the game each time. But that doesn’t scale. That doesn’t lead to increased results. You can only sell so much as one person. Creating a Culture of Ownership So, you need to have people on your team that are coming to you. What does that look like? The pinnacle is a salesperson who doesn’t close a deal, comes to you right away and asks for feedback. They want some critiques as to where they could have done things better, different that would have led to the desired result – a closed sale. That takes a healthy level of ego by a professional who has the ultimate growth mindset. They know there are always ways to improve. They want to improve. And they are willing to risk their ego (and the internal, protective, primal part of our brain that doesn’t want to risk our place in the tribe) by asking for feedback that could be negative. Whenever you can, encourage that type of response. Ensure that the team knows that the team itself, and you as their leader, is a safe space – where the goal is to improve, grow, win and that everything done to support each other is done in that mode. They truly have to feel safe to share their mistakes and to get support in learning how to do more, better. Feedback That Drives Growth Part of this takes team and individual meetings that are actually filled with positive support. That doesn’t mean it’s always positive, motivational fluff. It’s not even about the shallow strategy of the feedback sandwich. Its about being real, honest, and empathetic – meaning “I see you are here, I know you want to be there, I will help you get there – even if its hard and it means saying hard things.” It should never feel mean or abusive or like an attack. But you can give some really direct feedback that will sting that ego I mentioned, but the person will know the intent behind it. The second part is hiring this type of person. Hiring people for the team that wants to win, grow, succeed. And they know that you don’t get better by being coddled, sheltered, or protected. You want people who don’t like the thought of perpetually living safely in their comfort zone. And they are excited about the opportunity to be a part of a team that pushes everyone, empathetically, outside of their comfort zone. Are You Leading or Just Managing? If you find yourself as a leader having to push your team, or going to them most of the time, or most of the way mentally – then they see you as a manager not a leader. They see you as someone who manages them, pushes them, and wants them to do things they don’t want to do. I have written some blogs here that go into what your role should be – as a leader, not a manager. Pulling people along with you, inspiring people, and supporting yourself with a team of people who want to win. Not just those that want to show up, do as little as they can and hopefully go unnoticed (yet – complain about not making enough money and how the comp plan isn’t fair, or the leads are bad, or their schedule means they can’t be successful.) Make sure your team knows that they need to come to you – at least 51/49. They should be asking for help, guidance, training, feedback, and support more than you are having to push it down onto them.
By Jason Cutter February 3, 2025
If you have seen the movie Hitch, then you know the scene. Will Smith’s character (Hitch) is trying to coach Kevin James’ character (Albert) on how to finish out his upcoming first date. He is giving him pointers, one being that if his date fumbles with her keys at the door, it could mean she wants a kiss. So Hitch wants to see if Albert knows what to do – for a good night kiss. Hitch gives him the advice “you go 90 percent, and then wait for her to go 10%” which Albert then asks “wait for how long?” Hitch: “as long as it takes.” Albert leads in, Hitch is holding back to see if Albert will wait, and then Albert goes all the way and gives him a kiss. Hitch gets upset, and says “You go 90, I go 10 – you don’t go the whole 100%.” The Sales Analogy Kissing our prospective customers is not acceptable (just ask HR!). But the concept is the same. You don’t want to ever make 100% of the effort for your prospective customers. You don’t want to be the one who is doing all the work. Fundamentally, it is not good practice to want the deal more than the other person. When you go your 90, you need to wait – as long as it takes – for the prospect to go to their 10. And I would say that you want to go somewhere between 10-49, in reality. How Successful Sales Professionals Balance Effort Successful sales professionals know how far they have to go to meet the prospect where they are, while also knowing how much effort the prospect needs to put in to show they are committed. Where most salespeople get in trouble is they get desperate. They want the sale (kiss) more than the other person and they go the full 100%. Of course, persistence is important. And you won’t get what you don’t ask for (although…if you have followed me for any length of time, you will know I am very against having to ask for the sale). But you also have to ensure that your prospects actually want what you are selling. And they want it for their reasons and their motivations. They are driven to pursue your production option(s). They must go 10, 40, 60% of the way to you. The Pitfall of Chasing Your Prospect Just like courtship and relationships – if you find yourself chasing and one-sided-pursing the other person then it means you want it more than they do. It also means they own you. You are essentially begging them for the relationship – convincing, manipulating, begging, bribing, persuading your way forward. Which means they consciously and/or subconsciously know that they are in control. Because if they say no, you will keep pursuing and offering solutions. In sales – that looks like a salesperson who is calling, emailing, stalking a prospect – making offers, offering discounts and trials, and trying to find any way to make deal work. They are going 90-100% of the way for the prospect, not requiring them to go anywhere towards the agreement. This will end terribly. If they do decide to buy – taking the discount, free trial, taking the sale bait – they will not be happy (since they weren’t bought in for their reasons), they will look for reasons confirming why they didn’t really want to buy anyway, and they will know that they own you. Your company will have to convince them on a regular basis to stay in the relationship. The Right Balance for Customer Ownership You fundamentally need that prospective customer to come to you. Not 100% where you are just an Order Taker. But potentially 51% of the way – so they want it more than you. The more you can get them across that 50/50 threshold, the more they will be a satisfied customer. But remember – at 51/49 – they still need persuading, they still need to understand the value of your product for where they ultimately want to be in their life/business, and they still need your support. They lean in the right amount, you lean in the right amount = sales magic!
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