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E44: Q&A Week: How to pick what you should sell, why buyers and salespeople lie

December 28, 2023


What practical tips and insights will he share to help us navigate these aspects of the sales world?

In this episode I answer questions about what you should sell if you are new to sales, the ‘buyers are liars’ premise and why prospects think salespeople lie, and how to get a salesperson to stop nagging you to buy.



If you have any sales or mindset related questions, send me a message through the contact page or via LinkedIn.

  • Show Transcript

    On this episode I talked about what you should sell if you want a sales job, why prospects think salespeople are liars, even though the saying is “buyers are liars”, and what the best strategy is for getting a salesperson off your back, and why I would talk about that on a sales podcast.


    Welcome to Episode 44 of the sales experience podcast. My name is Jason Cutter and I’m so excited for these questions that I have lined up today, and I want to cover them. If you haven’t been checking out the episodes this week, make sure you go back 41, 42 and 43.


    I’ve been answering questions that I’ve seen, that I’ve received, I’ve gotten in training over the years, the hot ones that I know in my mind, it’s kind of the frequently asked questions and sales as I tear through this this week. And I’ll probably keep going next week as well.


    And if you have questions, make sure to send me a message, LinkedIn, I’m very accessible. You can find the CutterConsultingGroup.com website, use the contact page, send me a message. If you have an organization and some of these questions seem great and you want some training, some help on them, please hit me up. That’s what I do. I help companies with their performance, with sales, with training, with scripting, with technology.


    Whatever that might be, my goal is to help the salesperson the organization with effectiveness with selling and how to close more deals in the right way long term using the right strategies and generating more referrals as well. But for now, let’s get into some questions.


    The first one, which I get a lot from people who aren’t in sales aren’t sure what to do. They like the idea of sales, they know somebody who’s in sales, maybe they’re entering the job market, and they’re not quite sure what they should do. They don’t have a degree they don’t have certain skills, they don’t have experience sales seems like the best place to start.


    A question I get a lot is if I want to go into sales, what should I sell?


    Now, this is a really easy one and what I always recommend is that the best salesperson is somebody who uses the product or service. Nothing is more effective than a salesperson who also a customer.


    Now, there was a funny commercial, I forget what it was for maybe Hair Club for Men or Rogaine, something like that, where the guy says, “I’m not only the president, but I’m also a member.” And what’s great about that, as funny as it sounds is it’s very effective.


    When you use a product or service as a customer, then you know what it’s like, you know what the benefits are, you know what the downsides might be because there always is downsides, like I mentioned in the last episode. And so you know what that is like, you can empathize with that person, you can’t explain it from a first person perspective.


    So, what I always recommend is, if you’re looking at getting in sales, find something that you use, that you enjoy that you like, and then go into selling that. If you like cars, if you’re a car person, let’s say you love Subaru, then go sell Subarus. Because you’re familiar with it and that will take out a lot of the learning curve and a lot of the anxiety and stress of being new and sale because you understand the product, right?


    There’s a lot you have to learn in sales. I talked about earlier this weekend in a question that I answered, you know, the product or service, it’s so much easier, It could be insurance, it could be anything that you have experience with will make it so much easier for you to have fun and be effective at selling.


    So, always remember, start out with something you are familiar with and you know from a customer perspective. And I recommend this for anybody who’s in a sales role, if you change companies or sell a new product or service, you really want to make sure you understand it and if at all possible your customer. Now, it’s not always the most applicable thing to be a customer of what you’re selling, but just make sure that you actually believe in what you’re selling, that will really help.


    Next question. Why do salespeople get labeled as liars by prospects when the standard feeling is that customers are the ones who are lying most of the time, right?


    So, there’s a phrase here all the time in sales environments is that “buyers are liars”. And where does that come from? Well, we look at it in two different ways, one is the “buyers are liars” mentality is looking at the fact that the prospects don’t tell you the truth. They don’t give all the information, they don’t explain things that kind of hold their cards back, and that comes from them being afraid.


    That is the unfortunate downside and side effect of the way the sales profession is viewed and has been viewed for a long time. It’s fundamentally why I do this podcast, that’s why I do what I do because I’m trying to change that landscape. I would love nothing more than for all of us in the sales profession to collectively shift how prospects feel about salespeople.


    And the reason why “buyers are liars” in quotes is that they’re keeping their walls up, they don’t want to be taken advantage of. They don’t want to be manipulated, they don’t want to be ripped off, they don’t want to be screwed over, they don’t want to buy something they’re going to regret the next day, or as soon as they walk out of the store, hang up the phone.


    And so they’re going to keep some things to their chest, they’re going to protect themselves and they’re going to tell you half truths, they’re going to lie. They may not tell you all the truth, they may say I need to think about it, or I need to talk to my uncle or I need to talk to my spouse. When the truth may be they could make the decision, they just don’t want to.


    And so when you look at the buyers is liars mentality from a sales perspective, you got to keep in mind that the only reason they’re doing that is because they’re afraid or concern about what you’re going to do to them, thinking worst case scenario that you’re going to manipulate and rip them off for your benefit. And so if you find your prospects doing it, that should be more of a reflection on you and should hold up a mirror to you is like, what are you missing? What are you not doing right?


    The answer to that, and I’m not going to go into it now, but go back to the fundamentals episodes that I did for the podcast in weeks three and week four, where I covered the fundamentals. You want to do rapport, empathy, trust, hope and urgency. And when you do those things that will bring down their walls, and it will help them trust you, which will help them be more honest.


    It’s just like any other relationship. If you’re in a relationship with somebody like let’s say a romantic, significant other relationship, if you don’t trust them, you’re not going to be truthful. If you feel like you being truthful, is going to get you hurt or get you screwed over or you have hurts from the past and last time you were truthful, the other person used it against you or manipulated you or hurt you in some way, you’re not going to want to do that.


    And it’s the same thing with the prospects. Just assume any prospect you talked to has been hurt by a salesperson in the past or seen their family member hurt by a salesperson in the past, and so that’s what they’re bringing to the table. That’s why salespeople think prospects are liars.


    Why do prospect think salespeople are liars?


    Because of what I said where the traditional view of the salesperson is the snake oil salesperson. Snake oil salespeople that name that label, that idea comes from a specific practice that used to happen a long time ago. Where somebody would go into a new town, set up a shop either in a cart or rent out a storefront, and they would sell their snake oil, this magical mythical post that would solve all of your issues and take care of your pain and make everything better in your life.


    And it turned out to be just bogus, it wasn’t effective. But they’d get people excited, use some kind of placebo effect, maybe have somebody along there with them who could testify to how amazing this is. And they would sell as much as they could in the short amount of time possible until the jig was up and people found out and realized it was all just a bunch of crap. They would pack up, then move to the next town, this is obviously pre internet, and they would just go and do it again, and do it over and over again.


    And then down the road, a new salesperson comes to town. Now all the people in that town are worried and concerned that the salesperson could just be selling them crap, just like the last guy. And that’s what has propagated itself in the realm of sales. And so that’s why prospects just assume you’re lying. They assume and they know that you as a salesperson will benefit financially by making the sale. And so they are just assuming in their mind, until you prove otherwise, that you are going to manipulate them in order to get your way.


    And so you’ve got to take the onus on you and the responsibility on you on proving that that’s not what you’re going to do. Using the fundamental steps that I covered, being honest, being upfront, being transparent, and just being you being authentic, that will help shift that for those prospects.


    So again, if your prospects are giving you the vibe that you’re lying, or they’re lying to you, I might suggest that you step back and take some time for self reflection, and look at what you might be doing that’s triggering this in those prospects.


    Question number three, what is the best way to get a salesperson off your back?


    Now, why would I ask this question or answer this question on a sales experience podcast to help salespeople? Because I think it’s always important to put yourself in the other person’s shoes. To put yourself in the prospects shoes, and use empathy to kind of imagine what it would be like.


    And I talked about this all the time, where you want to make sure that you’re thinking about it from their perspective, what it’s like to be a prospect and how it is when you’re buying, and you have a good experience versus a bad experience? And so it’s always important, if you feel like your prospects are dodging you, avoiding you not wanting contact with you, then there’s something you’re doing or something you didn’t do.


    Maybe you didn’t build enough rapport or trust, and you didn’t show them that you care enough about them. But fundamentally, it’s super important because you see this all the time, how do I get salespeople off my back? How do I get them to stop calling me? They feel like you’re a nuisance and annoying, there’s a good chance that they don’t see the value in what you’re trying to sell, and you’re coming across as a nagging, desperate salesperson.


    And if that occurs, again, take a step back and look, are you doing the fundamentals? Did you do what you’re supposed to do? Did you relate to them? How your product or service solves their problem? Do you even know what their problem was that you’re trying to solve? Do you know their pain, their issues, their struggles, their goals, their hopes, their dreams, their wants? Do you know those things?


    Because if you don’t, and then you’re still just calling somebody you’re sending emails, then you’re just nagging for no good reason. You’re using the shotgun approach. You’re just hoping if you do enough of those calls, somebody might bite on it and you might close a deal. But that causes the prospects to have this feeling where they want to know how do they get you to just stop, right? And so you want to make sure you don’t put yourself into that situation where you then become that salesperson that they’re trying to avoid.


    And that’s it for another episode of The Sales Experience Podcast. Make sure to subscribe, rate, comment, all that stuff I mentioned all the time. Get in touch with me, I love hearing feedback. Until next time, always remember that everything in life is sales and people will remember the experience you gave them.


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By Jason Cutter February 13, 2025
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By Jason Cutter February 12, 2025
The Danger of Doing Too Much as a Sales Leader Alright – so maybe they don’t need to go 90. In true servant leadership mode, you would go way more than 10% of the way to your team. But you have to be careful, as a sales leader. The inclination might be to do it all for them. To help them close their sales. To make excuses for them to your leadership as to why they aren’t closing more sales. Especially considering the very high likelihood that you are a sales manager because you were a great salesperson in the role that you are now managing. And there is a slight chance that you are a player-coach…so you are leading and selling. This can make it really tough not to want to run out on the field to win the game each time. But that doesn’t scale. That doesn’t lead to increased results. You can only sell so much as one person. Creating a Culture of Ownership So, you need to have people on your team that are coming to you. What does that look like? The pinnacle is a salesperson who doesn’t close a deal, comes to you right away and asks for feedback. They want some critiques as to where they could have done things better, different that would have led to the desired result – a closed sale. That takes a healthy level of ego by a professional who has the ultimate growth mindset. They know there are always ways to improve. They want to improve. And they are willing to risk their ego (and the internal, protective, primal part of our brain that doesn’t want to risk our place in the tribe) by asking for feedback that could be negative. Whenever you can, encourage that type of response. Ensure that the team knows that the team itself, and you as their leader, is a safe space – where the goal is to improve, grow, win and that everything done to support each other is done in that mode. They truly have to feel safe to share their mistakes and to get support in learning how to do more, better. Feedback That Drives Growth Part of this takes team and individual meetings that are actually filled with positive support. That doesn’t mean it’s always positive, motivational fluff. It’s not even about the shallow strategy of the feedback sandwich. Its about being real, honest, and empathetic – meaning “I see you are here, I know you want to be there, I will help you get there – even if its hard and it means saying hard things.” It should never feel mean or abusive or like an attack. But you can give some really direct feedback that will sting that ego I mentioned, but the person will know the intent behind it. The second part is hiring this type of person. Hiring people for the team that wants to win, grow, succeed. And they know that you don’t get better by being coddled, sheltered, or protected. You want people who don’t like the thought of perpetually living safely in their comfort zone. And they are excited about the opportunity to be a part of a team that pushes everyone, empathetically, outside of their comfort zone. Are You Leading or Just Managing? If you find yourself as a leader having to push your team, or going to them most of the time, or most of the way mentally – then they see you as a manager not a leader. They see you as someone who manages them, pushes them, and wants them to do things they don’t want to do. I have written some blogs here that go into what your role should be – as a leader, not a manager. Pulling people along with you, inspiring people, and supporting yourself with a team of people who want to win. Not just those that want to show up, do as little as they can and hopefully go unnoticed (yet – complain about not making enough money and how the comp plan isn’t fair, or the leads are bad, or their schedule means they can’t be successful.) Make sure your team knows that they need to come to you – at least 51/49. They should be asking for help, guidance, training, feedback, and support more than you are having to push it down onto them.
By Jason Cutter February 3, 2025
If you have seen the movie Hitch, then you know the scene. Will Smith’s character (Hitch) is trying to coach Kevin James’ character (Albert) on how to finish out his upcoming first date. He is giving him pointers, one being that if his date fumbles with her keys at the door, it could mean she wants a kiss. So Hitch wants to see if Albert knows what to do – for a good night kiss. Hitch gives him the advice “you go 90 percent, and then wait for her to go 10%” which Albert then asks “wait for how long?” Hitch: “as long as it takes.” Albert leads in, Hitch is holding back to see if Albert will wait, and then Albert goes all the way and gives him a kiss. Hitch gets upset, and says “You go 90, I go 10 – you don’t go the whole 100%.” The Sales Analogy Kissing our prospective customers is not acceptable (just ask HR!). But the concept is the same. You don’t want to ever make 100% of the effort for your prospective customers. You don’t want to be the one who is doing all the work. Fundamentally, it is not good practice to want the deal more than the other person. When you go your 90, you need to wait – as long as it takes – for the prospect to go to their 10. And I would say that you want to go somewhere between 10-49, in reality. How Successful Sales Professionals Balance Effort Successful sales professionals know how far they have to go to meet the prospect where they are, while also knowing how much effort the prospect needs to put in to show they are committed. Where most salespeople get in trouble is they get desperate. They want the sale (kiss) more than the other person and they go the full 100%. Of course, persistence is important. And you won’t get what you don’t ask for (although…if you have followed me for any length of time, you will know I am very against having to ask for the sale). But you also have to ensure that your prospects actually want what you are selling. And they want it for their reasons and their motivations. They are driven to pursue your production option(s). They must go 10, 40, 60% of the way to you. The Pitfall of Chasing Your Prospect Just like courtship and relationships – if you find yourself chasing and one-sided-pursing the other person then it means you want it more than they do. It also means they own you. You are essentially begging them for the relationship – convincing, manipulating, begging, bribing, persuading your way forward. Which means they consciously and/or subconsciously know that they are in control. Because if they say no, you will keep pursuing and offering solutions. In sales – that looks like a salesperson who is calling, emailing, stalking a prospect – making offers, offering discounts and trials, and trying to find any way to make deal work. They are going 90-100% of the way for the prospect, not requiring them to go anywhere towards the agreement. This will end terribly. If they do decide to buy – taking the discount, free trial, taking the sale bait – they will not be happy (since they weren’t bought in for their reasons), they will look for reasons confirming why they didn’t really want to buy anyway, and they will know that they own you. Your company will have to convince them on a regular basis to stay in the relationship. The Right Balance for Customer Ownership You fundamentally need that prospective customer to come to you. Not 100% where you are just an Order Taker. But potentially 51% of the way – so they want it more than you. The more you can get them across that 50/50 threshold, the more they will be a satisfied customer. But remember – at 51/49 – they still need persuading, they still need to understand the value of your product for where they ultimately want to be in their life/business, and they still need your support. They lean in the right amount, you lean in the right amount = sales magic!
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